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Thursday, August 22, 2024

Ancestry owns, sells your content, photos. Ancestry.com sells your photos for money by Mary Cummins




Ancestry, Findagrave just sent out a "privacy" update today, see below. They state "anything you enter into an interactive tool with our Services is Your Content." If you read the fine print, that's not true. The link states sure, it's "your content," but we can possess it, sell it and make money off of it even if you delete your content, tree and account. It's "their" content to use forever. They make over a billion dollars a year selling your content. 

As I've stated before DO NOT POST YOUR PRIVATE PHOTOS, DOCUMENTS ON ANCESTRY! You are giving them your content for free to use, sell, license. Who cares if you own it if they have a license to possess, sell and make billions off of your content. If you do, you will see your private family photos advertised on the internet for sale. It happened to me.

I learned this lesson about private photos the hard way and had to threaten to sue Ancestry. I stupidly added a certain beautiful private one of a kind photo I took of my private document from 1899 in my old Ancestry account for one then private relative. A friend then told me not to do that because Ancestry sells your content for money. I removed the photo of that document. A week later I saw an ad for Ancestry and they were showing my document saying paraphrased "we have these documents on Ancestry. Join for $59 and you can have this beautiful document." 

I sent them a letter saying I removed it and don't allow them to use my copyrighted photo of the 1899 document. They said they removed it. A week later it was still there. I told them to remove it again. It was still there. Then they tried to shake me by putting me in a support loop hoping I'd give up. I searched ancestry.com with a robot and still there. I sent a copyright notice then wrote a copyright lawsuit and sent it to them. It was finally gone. I bet they only blocked me from seeing it. I will sue for copyright if I find it again. I have the only photo on my computer and nowhere else.

This is how you use Ancestry.com safely. Create your tree on your computer using a free ged software. Add the research you do on Ancestry to that tree. You can download your Ancestry tree into your private tree on your computer to start. NEVER add your photos to Ancestry. You're also selling all the research you do on Ancestry for free. If you build your family tree there, another member can just start their tree and it will instantly link to your tree even if your tree is private. They will instantly suck all your years, decades of work into their tree. Nothing is private on Ancestry no matter what they say. It doesn't matter if your tree is set to private or you lie and list your relative as alive. I verified this by building a fake private tree with impossible names, dates. I asked a friend to start a tree with the fake name and sure enough my fake private tree showed up for them with all my fake data. 

Remember if you upload to findagrave, geneastar, geneanet or any other Ancestry.com owned site, you are giving your content to Ancestry for free to sell for profits.

Another illegal thing they do is use copyrighted content. Someone will upload a copyrighted photo. Ancestry will sell it "legally" by stating the person who uploaded it stated it was copyright free. They know full well most of their photos, documents are copyrighted by others. This is how they suck up copyrighted content to sell for profits. It's so crazy to think people pay to join Ancestry, add their private content, do hours of research which Ancestry sells for free. It'd be like Facebook charging everyone a monthly fee and continuing to run adds on Facebook content. It's double dipping on profits.

Here's something I learned from Geneanet before Ancestry bought them. Someone asked why you can download your tree with photos and files on Geneanet but not Ancestry. Owner of Geneanet said you can technically do it on Ancestry but Ancestry doesn't allow it because they want to keep you dependent on paying the monthly fee. They make you pay the monthly fee out of fear you'll lose your tree, documents and photos. This is why I don't subscribe to Ancestry anymore. No real genealogist would because all their data came from somewhere else anyway. They're data scrapers, stealers in my book. 


"3. Your Content
Certain Services may allow you to contribute content, including but not limited to: (i) family trees; (ii) family memories such as photos, audio/video recordings, and stories; (iii) record annotations, comments, messages, and input to interactive tools; and (iv) feedback provided to Ancestry about the Services (“Your Content”). Your Content that contains Personal Information will be treated in accordance with our Privacy Statement.

3.1 You Control Your Content
Ancestry does not claim any ownership rights to Your Content, control how you choose to share Your Content within the Services, or limit how you share Your Content outside of Ancestry’s Services. You can delete Your Content either by following instructions provided within the Services or by logging into your Account Settings and deleting your Account. However, if you submit feedback, record annotations, or suggestions about Ancestry or our Services, you acknowledge that it is deemed to be non-confidential and non-proprietary and we may use your feedback, record annotations, or suggestions for any purpose without any obligation or compensation to you.

3.2 Use of Your Content
"By submitting Your Content, you grant Ancestry a non-exclusive, sub-licensable, worldwide, royalty-free license to host, store, index, copy, publish, distribute, provide access to, create derivative works of, and otherwise use Your Content to provide, promote, or improve the Services, consistent with your privacy and sharing settings. You can terminate Ancestry’s license by deleting Your Content, except to the extent you shared Your Content with others and they have used Your Content. You also agree that Ancestry owns any indexes and compilations that include Your Content and may use them after Your Content is deleted.

3.3 Your Responsibilities for Your Content
You are responsible for the decision to create, upload, post, or share Your Content. By contributing or accessing Your Content you agree:
You have all the necessary legal rights to upload, post, or share Your Content;
Your Content does not violate any applicable laws.
Your Content that you share publicly will not include Personal Information as defined in our Privacy Statement about a living person without their consent. In the case of living minors, you will get consent from their parent or guardian;
All Your Content will comply with the Community Rules;
If you share Your Content publicly, other users may access and use Your Content as part of, or in conjunction with, the Services. We are not required to remove any of Your Content once it has been publicly shared.
You will use other Users’ content only within Ancestry Services and in compliance with these Terms and the other policies incorporated by reference;
Ancestry reserves the right to review Your Content and to screen for illegal content or other violations of these Terms, including the Community Rules, and to remove or disable access to illegal content or Your Content that we believe violates these Terms. We will also remove Your Content in response to a valid court order or as required by applicable law; and
Serious or repeat violations or offenses will subject you to account suspension or termination in accordance with Ancestry’s content moderation policies. Ancestry’s procedure for assessing and removing content is set out here."

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Monday, September 20, 2021

Mountain View Cemetery in Altadena, California by Mary Cummins Genealogist

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave
mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

Mountain View Mortuary and Cemetery is a family owned cemetery started in 1882. It's located at 2400 N Fair Oaks Ave, Altadena, California, United States. 

Below are a few photos I took the last time I was there. 

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave


mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

mountain view cemetery, altadena, california, mary cummins, los angeles, 2400 fair oaks, mortuary, mausoleum, grave, tombstone, burial, genealogy, real estate, burial, findagrave

Here are some of the people buried in this cemetery via Findagrave

Below is the main map. Maps of the specific areas in the cemetery can be found in the main website linked above. 




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Angelus Rosedale Cemetery in Los Angeles, California by Mary Cummins genealogist

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser
Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007



Angelus-Rosedale Cemetery is a cemetery in Los Angeles at 1831 West Washington Boulevard in the Pico-Union district, southwest of Downtown. The roads have lots of pot holes so be careful driving. Be sure to park inside the gates and not on the street. 

It was founded as Rosedale Cemetery in 1884, when Los Angeles had a population of approximately 28,000, on 65 acres (260,000 m2) of land running from Washington to Venice Boulevard (then 16th Street) between Normandie Avenue and Walton and Catalina Streets, and often used by California politicians, notably former Mayors of the City of Los Angeles. The interments include pioneers and members of leading families in Los Angeles and the state.

Rosedale was the first cemetery in Los Angeles open to all races and creeds, and was the first to adopt the design concept of lawn cemeteries. This is where the grounds are enhanced to surround the graves with beautiful trees, shrubs, flowers, natural scenery and works of monumental art. Among the more traditional structures, headstones and mausoleums, the cemetery also has several pyramid crypts. In 1887, the second crematory in the US was opened at Rosedale Cemetery. It was also the first crematory west of the Rocky Mountains. The initial cremation took place on June 16, when the body of Mrs. Olive A. Bird (c. 1845–1886), wife of prominent physician O.B. Bird, was cremated. By 1913, there had been 2,392 cremations performed at Rosedale. Next to the cemetery at 1605 S. Catalina Street is another cremation facility, the domed, observatory-shaped Chapel of the Pines Crematory.[citation needed]

In 1993, Rosedale was bought by the Angelus Funeral Home on Crenshaw Boulevard and renamed Angelus-Rosedale Cemetery.

Below is a map of the cemetery as of 1962 I believe. I got it from the West Adams Heritage Society who does a Halloween, Day of the Dead event every year at the cemetery. 
angelus rosedale cemetery map, 1831 washington blvd, los angeles ca 90007, mary cummins, grave, tombstone

Below is the plat map of the property. Wikipedia states it's 65 acres. It's probably 55 acres. There are several buildings on the property. The earliest I see is 1902. 1994 they built a new mausoleum so they could sell more plots.




Below are some photos I've taken of the cemetery. The black pyramid tombstone is that of Lewis Grigsby. You can see a list of famous people at the Wiki link above. 

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Lewis Eugene Grigsby Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007 GPS and link to this grave https://maps.app.goo.gl/shpDTDwdBi5uD81V8

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Angelus rosedale cemetery, rosedale cemetery, los angeles, california, mary cummins, genealogist, graveyard, graves, tombstone, mausoleum, findagrave, ancestry, real estate appraiser, 1831 W Washington Blvd, CA 90007

Some newspaper clippings from 1884 and 1885. The grand opening was February 1885. Corporation was formed June 1884. 






Genealogist at Geneanet and Geneastar
https://en.geneanet.org/profil/marycummins
 Mary Cummins Investigative Reporter
https://marycumminsrealestatemarycummins.blogspot.com
 Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser
http://www.marycummins.com
 Mary Cummins
http://www.mary.cc
 Mary Cummins Biography, History in Wikipedia format
http://wikipedia.marycummins.com/
 Mary Cummins on LinkedIn